There's so much murderous intent here.
I had a very violent encounter with a male entity.
He's attached to somebody here.
I think it's eventually gonna kill us.
I think murderers would be, like, bred here.
He confessed to as many as 49 murders.
He could have been a serial killer.
Yeah.
This house could cause somebody to kill somebody.
And I just feel fear.
My name is Amy Allan.
This is like Grand Central Station for the dead.
I see dead people.
They have pain that they suffered.
I speak to dead people.
She hates them, hates them.
And they speak to me.
But there's only one way to know if my findings are real.
It's a demon. It's Satan.
I rely on my partner.
I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
I'm a retired New York City homicide detective.
What was the body count, what happened?
And I know every person, every house has secrets.
I don't know if it's a demon or not,
but it sure as hell looks like one.
It's my job to reveal them.
I feel like I'm crazy.
But Steve and I never speak...
We never communicate during an investigation.
...until the very end...
I don't even want to show you this.
...when we uncover if it's safe for you to stay...
I just don't want anything to happen to my mother.
...or time to get out.
You have to get out.
I'm out here in Colorado Springs.
It's about an hour south of Denver.
I got a call from a woman named Jordan.
Now, she says she made a terrible mistake.
She started a paranormal group with her wife,
and now all hell has broken loose in her house.
She's in way over her head,
and says if Amy and I can't fix it,
somebody's gonna wind up dead.
Before Amy arrives,
I look for any leading information.
Besides typical things like photographs and medication,
this home has other unusual items
that I need to remove or cover.
When I'm done, the location will be ready for tonight's walk.
Interesting.
I feel lost,
stressed out and lost, and angry.
Then this overwhelming sense of emptiness,
and it's just really consuming.
It's, like...horrible.
This house could cause somebody to kill somebody.
Jordan, when we spoke on the phone,
it sounded like things were pretty bad here.
What's it like living here?
The paranormal activity here is destroying us.
The depression in this house is overwhelming.
The anger is overwhelming.
So who all lives in the house?
Well, there's my wife, Lorie, and I.
Okay.
What kind of experiences is everybody having?
It started with footsteps,
voices, shadow figures,
objects being moved.
Went to health issues.
What health issues are you having?
I started having serious stomach issues.
They did the scopes, they did the things that they do.
Nothing.
All right, as far as health goes,
I'm not sure if that's paranormal or not.
That's something we'll ask Amy.
So, Jordan, you mentioned on the phone
that you have a paranormal group.
What exactly do you guys do?
People call us for help.
We've never had an issue, never had a problem,
until two years ago
when we did an investigation in Denver at a hotel.
So what went wrong?
I had a very violent encounter with a male entity.
Ever since then, everything in the house has gone to hell.
So you think you brought something home from here?
I do, yes.
So besides this entity,
that you think you took, or a person, from Denver,
what else do you think is here?
Could be Lorie's ex, Nora.
Why would Nora be here? Did she die here?
No, but she was very, very ill here
for a very long time,
and this was her home, the only home that she knew.
What was wrong with Nora, what did she pass from?
She had severe, severe epilepsy.
And it had caused such brain problems,
it turned into a terminal brain issue.
You're in a tough spot, obviously.
What are you hoping we can do?
Just get our life back, our house back.
I'm supposed to be the one that protects my family
and my home, and I can't.
Nothing has ever hurt me more
because I feel it's my fault.
It's got to stop.
I'm getting this little lady.
She's really tiny, probably in her 60s.
She's freaking out about another dead lady that's here.
She says, "It's horrible, it's horrible.
Help me, help me, help me.
She's abusing me, she's abusing me."
She's like, "My head hurts, my head hurts."
Maybe she had a stroke
or she had Alzheimer's or dementia.
There's something going on with her brain.
Is this something that could affect the living?
I think the living would experience headaches here,
definitely, like, migraines.
I think that the living might hear her crying and yelling.
The really bad thing is this head issue,
like, it's really painful.
And also, her depression and despair.
Like it's really, really sad.
This is not a good situation.
Okay, Jordan, so what's going on in here?
We have a problem with the staircase
that's right back here.
It feels like someone's on your butt,
they're chasing you up the stairs.
Do you feel anything or is it just a sense?
You feel the pressure.
Could it be anything like maybe
the dogs are running up on you, anything like that?
No, the dogs don't go downstairs.
All right, so anything else?
Yeah, the shadow figures.
Sometimes I'll come out of the kitchen,
and we'll run into each other.
Jordan, you're sure you're not seeing a shadow
from somebody else that lives in the house?
Absolutely.
All right, so what do you think this thing is?
I think it's the guy from the investigation in Denver.
Okay.
There's a creepy dead guy here.
He is a war vet, and he is military.
He's covered in mud,
and on his chest, he wrote "Killer."
He is angry and lost, and he's lashing out.
He's attached to somebody here.
What he's doing to people is wrong.
The living would see an elongated, like, shadow.
He crawls up and down the stairs.
So that makes me worried
about him causing, you know, people to fall and stuff.
So, Jordan, I assume this is where you and Lorie sleep?
Used to be.
But her health has gotten so bad
that she can no longer come down here to sleep,
so it's just me.
So she's out on the couch?
She's out on the couch.
Okay, so what's going on?
In here, there's huge banging, knocking.
It's just very loud, sudden bangs.
I mean, I see big trees all around the house.
Is it possible that something from the tree is falling,
or from wind, a branch banging against the house?
No, we have them cut every year.
Is it possible the plumbing is banging?
No, it's not that at all.
And we've looked. I would love it to be that.
Okay, what else?
I've been pulled out of bed.
I was laying here asleep,
and he yanked me so hard,
I felt like my shoulder
was just gonna come right out of its socket,
and landed halfway on the floor.
Were you in a dead sleep? Yes.
You suffer from seizures, or anything like that?
No.
So has anything else physically like that happened to you?
Yeah, there's been a couple of bad ones.
Like what?
I have actually been walking out the door.
Okay.
And been pushed against the wall,
almost like I was being arrested.
You said a couple of physical things happened.
What's the other?
I was getting up to go and do something,
and literally was punched
in the middle of the back so hard
that it knocked me to my knees.
And it was so bad that I ended up in the E.R.
And how are you dealing with all this?
It's incredibly stressful.
And it causes major mood swings for me, as well.
I turn into someone I don't know.
I turn into someone that scares me.
I don't know what I'm capable of at that moment.
This military guy, he's very, very scared.
I think that living people would feel his fear.
Sometimes where he's like freakin' the **** out,
yelling, like, hitting things...
...punching the wall,
like, he's losing his mind, you know?
So I think the living would hear that and feel it,
because he's, like...
And he's physical, you know, he's punching, like...
That man comes back here a lot.
He can do harm, he's a threat.
And it's not good.
So, Lorie, I was talking to your wife,
and she feels that whatever's in this house
is pretty dangerous.
Do you agree with her?
Definitely.
So I know you guys are having experiences.
I want to hear about yours.
When I'm sitting here, I can hear things
in the kitchen moving around.
Okay, so do me a favor and describe what you're hearing.
It sounds like someone's cooking.
The pans are banging, the cupboards are going.
You hear, like, the utensil drawer opening.
It's loud.
Anything else?
One of the main things is the dark figure
that I see in the hallway.
Describe what that figure looks like to you.
He's darker than the dark.
He's so tall, broad shoulders.
To me, he's looking at me, like, taunting me.
So you've got stuff rattling around in the kitchen,
like somebody's cooking,
you've got a dark figure in the hallway there.
Right.
Anything else?
There was one night that I was laying here,
and just before I fell asleep,
I heard a woman crying in my ear.
Right in my ear.
Like sobbing, cried to me, "Help me."
Could it have been somebody outside the door?
I thought that, too, and nothing.
There was no one out there.
Okay, that's strange.
Yeah.
I'm seeing the other dead lady,
the one the little lady was freaking out about.
Her main area is the kitchen.
She's physical, she's aggressive, she's in your face,
she's so stressed out.
Anybody experiencing, like, extreme stress here, that's her.
This is a consistent anger that's permeated this place
because of her.
The living here would suddenly, spontaneously get mad.
Like if somebody moved in here
and they didn't used to be angry,
but they move here and they're always angry.
And why?
Well, she wants them to leave.
That's been her M.O. is to get them out.
She apparently had some type of protocol
that has worked in the past,
as far as, like, getting people out.
Well, it's not working this time.
So you're saying she's gotten the living
to leave this place before?
That's what she's indicating, yeah.
Jordan mentioned to me about some of the attacks
that's happened to her.
Have you had anything similar to that?
I have woken up and I have, like, fingerprints.
They're, like, three gouges right here.
You ever have violent dreams
where you maybe grab yourself or anything like that?
No.
Nothing like that? No.
Anything else?
There was this one time that I was sitting here,
and I saw a woman standing at the end of the hallway.
She was probably, like, 80, 90 years old.
We had locked eyes,
and her face kind of transformed
into, like, almost a monster,
like a demon sort of thing.
Okay. Scared me to death.
If you saw a picture of her, would you recognize her?
Yes.
So, all that's going on, how are you dealing with it?
Not very well.
I mean, every night, I sob, I cry.
I can't fix it.
It got so bad, that's when I turned to Jordan,
I said, "We need the big guns." Right.
I said, "I got to call in Amy and Steve."
I didn't know what else to do.
What do you think whatever's here wants?
They want to hurt us
as much as they possibly can.
I think it's eventually gonna kill us,
that it's gonna wear us down so far,
that we're gonna be dead.
This other dead woman, she's bad.
She is dogging one of the living people here, hard-core.
I want to say it's a female.
Basically, she is kind of tormenting this person,
not letting them sleep.
It's just when they're getting comfortable
and that's when she likes to **** with this person.
That's when they've seen her,
like, this weird, morphed face.
Her fingers turning into little black snakes.
This person now, like, really can't sleep,
so, like, they're insomniacs,
and it's wearing them down, which is making them sick.
She likes to make them vomit.
She likes to make them feel pain.
She could physically harm them.
Do you have any idea why?
She wants her house back.
And she's had it.
Basically, like, whatever she has to do, she's gonna do it.
I'm just shocked she hasn't killed
this person yet, honestly,
because I think she could, I really do.
So before I got to town,
I called a bunch of locals and had them start looking into
Jordan and Lorie's property for me.
Well, an historian just called back,
and she says she's got something
I'm definitely gonna want to know about.
It turns out one of the original owners of the land
got a deadly illness as soon as he bought the place.
Katie, you mentioned on the phone
that one of the original owners of my clients' property
got sick the minute he got here.
Before we even get to that,
what do you know about this guy?
Yeah, so Frederick Rowe was his name.
He was an insurance salesman
and a real-estate agent here in Colorado Springs,
and he purchased your client's property
in March of 1889.
Does he come alone?
Is he single, a family, what's the story?
He brought along his family.
He had a wife named Clarabelle and two daughters.
All right, so I know he gets sick pretty quick.
What happened?
Rowe ended up contracting tuberculosis
a few months after purchasing your clients' property.
This is a miserable disease from what I've learned.
How long did he suffer with it?
He suffered for the better part of a year,
chills, fever, weight loss,
coughing up blood, just really pretty torturous.
So he ends up dying July 18, 1890.
Okay.
I've got a copy here of the death register.
Now, how old was this guy when he died?
He was 57.
I'm feeling death down here.
I think it's a male.
This person right here is -- is...
definitely, like, right there in their death state,
like right when they're right about to die.
They're still breathing a little bit,
and they're feeling the cold creeping through their body.
There's something really wrong with it.
Okay, so I know that at that time period,
TB was pretty rampant all over the country.
Now, how bad did it get here in Colorado Springs?
It was pretty bad here with the dry climate.
You had a lot of people moving here with TB.
TB sanatoriums pop up around the city.
One was behind me here -- Cragmor Sanatorium.
Any idea how many people died from TB
in Colorado Springs during that time period?
There wasn't a vaccine for TB until 1921,
so you had thousands of people
dying here in Colorado Springs.
A lot of pain here and illness.
It's the blood, they're hearing blood.
Like, they're trying to fight it,
but it's really loud.
They're hearing the pulsing, they're hearing the blood.
It's hard to explain what you're hearing.
Around you is a lot of noise,
voices, all these things are going on.
It's like this weird echo-y, like they're dying.
They're hearing it and feeling it.
It's loud.
They're hearing that loudness.
I don't understand what happened to them.
If you were exposed for a long time,
you'd feel not good.
You'd feel very sick, very drained.
Sick.
So far, I have a couple convinced
they brought something dangerous home
from a paranormal investigation
on a property where one of the previous owners
died of tuberculosis,
but I want to see if there's anything else.
Searching through old records,
I find an elderly woman who was murdered in the mid 1990s,
right across the street from Jordan and Lorie's property.
You know, you've got to be one sick rat bastard
to murder a 96-year-old woman.
I'm headed over to meet the city's medical examiner,
who says there was never any justice in this case.
Dr. Kelly, I appreciate
you helping me out with this.
So the article I found and researched
was a 96-year-old woman who was murdered.
What do we know about the victim?
So, Marjorie Mock was found dead
right across the street from your clients' home.
What do you know about her?
She was kind of locally famous, actually.
She did not leave the house
unless she was dressed to the nines,
full face of makeup.
She walked the mall every single day for 17 years.
She was in charge of the mall,
she kind of watched over the place,
made sure everybody was doing
what they were supposed to be doing, and behaving.
So what happened with the homicide?
What were the circumstances?
November 10, 1995.
She doesn't show up, so everybody grows concerned.
Where is she?
So they contact the apartment manager,
and at that point, he does a welfare check,
and that's when they find her deceased in her apartment.
Did the house look like there was a crime scene there?
So initially it wasn't all that suspicious.
There's no evidence of a struggle,
there's no evidence of foul play.
It just looks like an elderly woman who has died.
It's not until the autopsy's done
that we find out that she's got some significant injuries.
It looks like she's been strangled
and possibly smothered.
She's got hemorrhages in her neck, bleeding, bruises,
breaks of the bones in the neck,
all suggestive or indicative of strangulation.
And here's an article on the case here.
Did they have anybody that they liked?
They talked to friends, families, neighbors, everybody.
Really couldn't come up with a solid suspect.
This is still considered
an active homicide investigation.
Okay.
I'm seeing that angry dead woman again.
Can you describe the way she looks?
Probably my height, dark brown hair in a bob.
And she's white.
I'd put her in her 30s.
She's either from the 1950s, 1960s.
It seemed like she belonged here.
So I'm thinking possibly,
I don't know if she was an owner,
or her husband was an owner, but she lived here.
And she was a neat freak, homemaker.
And she was, like, perfect,
and the female showed me hanging herself.
God.
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Another thing caught my attention in research.
Back in the '80s, a 15-year-old girl went missing
just about a mile from Jordan and Lorie's house.
So I reached out to the city's retired sheriff.
Now, he remembers the case well
and says she was the victim of a prolific killer.
Well, John, thanks for hooking me up
and coming out and helping me out with this case.
So the girl that disappeared near my clients' house,
what were the circumstances?
It was November of 1987,
15-year-old Rocio Sperry just went missing,
no leads, nothing to go on at the time.
The case pretty much went cold right away.
Okay, so now, obviously, there was
a break in the case that occurred, right?
Right. So what happened?
The real break in that case came in '95
when I was elected Sheriff,
and I reopened a homicide case from 1991,
where a 13-year-old girl, Heather Dawn Church,
who was abducted from her home in that case.
Okay, so you got this homicide.
Any evidence at all?
The only evidence we had on Heather Dawn Church's case
were some latent fingerprints
that were at the crime scene where she was abducted,
where we were able to identify the prints
from a convicted felon out of Louisiana
by the name of Robert Charles Brown.
This is him here? That's him.
What happened next, did you guys make the collar?
We got him, yeah.
Initially he denied it,
was adamant that he wasn't there.
He didn't know the family, never been on the property.
As we got closer to court,
he did confess, he gave us enough details
to convince us that he was responsible,
and he did take a life sentence.
All right, so now you've got a confession,
life sentence, how do you guys connect him
to the Rocio disappearance?
Once he was in prison,
he started sending these cryptic messages,
and we finally got enough
that we confronted him on the Rocio Sperry case.
He confessed, gave us intimate details
that only a killer would know.
What information did he give you?
That he picked her up at a convenience store,
took her back to his apartment, they had sex.
Afterwards, he strangled her,
then he dismembered her,
and took her dismembered parts and put them in a Dumpster.
He is serving two life sentences here in Colorado,
and he's about an hour south of your clients' property.
So now, you mentioned on the phone
what a prolific killer this guy was.
Did you like him for any other homicides?
We did.
In fact, he confessed to as many as 49 murders.
Wow.
Okay, so he's claiming he killed 49.
How many were you able to actually pin on him?
We confirmed seven, total.
But I think he's really good for all of them.
I think this guy is one of the most
prolific serial killers in American history.
Okay.
I feel like a very evil person is here.
I think it's a man.
I don't feel comfortable.
I'm seeing some weird ****
I'm seeing a guy, like, dismember a woman's body.
I think this guy is a serial killer.
I'm seeing this scene of this guy, like,
totally wrecking this chick,
and feeling, like, high,
like, angry, like, sad.
I'm feeling all of these weird emotions.
These emotions are
very, very, very strong,
feeling this sadness
and this anger.
There's so much anger
and so much, like, murderous intent here,
I'm afraid that somebody here
could become a killer.
I think murderers would be, like, bred here
and could either kill here or kill elsewhere.
I saw several disturbing things on my walk,
but the angry dead woman tormenting a living person
concerns me the most.
She had perfect hair, brown,
more of a squared jaw, longer face.
But instead of a hand or fingers,
she just has these little, long, black snakes.
Her hair's a bit longer and thinner.
Okay.
Amy, is this what you saw?
Yes, that's what I saw.
Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations,
we're ready to reveal our findings to each other
and our clients for the first time.
So, Amy, I'd like you to meet Jordan and her wife, Lorie.
Now, these two aren't our typical clients.
Matter of fact, they're paranormal investigators.
So, as you can imagine, things had to be pretty bad here
for them to call us in for help.
They both agreed the activity here is dangerous
and they're hoping you can find a solution where they couldn't.
So, now that Amy knows who you guys are,
we'll hear about her walk.
So when I walked into the house,
I encountered a female.
She was very petite.
To me, it looked like she was probably in her 60s.
I felt like this woman lived here at some point.
I really couldn't tell you how she died,
but she was complaining about her head.
Seemed to me that she had some kind of issue
with her brain.
The way that I felt the living would experience her
would be headaches.
I thought even to the point of migraines.
I really felt that it was possible
the living would at times hear her crying out for help.
The other thing I felt was
because of this immense depression
that she goes into at times,
I felt that the living would experience that
empathically with her.
So that's the first person.
You okay?
Yeah.
I know who she's talking about.
Now would probably be a good time
for you to tell Amy who Nora was.
Nora was my ex.
We were together for 27 years.
She had a -- sorry -- a brain condition.
She was an epileptic.
She died in a nursing home in 2014.
Right.
And she was, what, 52? Yeah.
And you've experienced some of the things
Amy was talking about, right?
Everything you said made sense.
When she mentioned about the voice crying out,
you told me you were on the couch, remember that?
Yeah, as I was falling asleep,
a woman in my ear cried out, "Help me."
Now, Amy -- she mentioned something
about sudden headaches.
Do either one of you ever get those?
She does a lot.
They're bad. They're terrible.
And I, you know, take bottles of aspirin and Tylenol
all night, whatever,
and it just -- nothing touches it.
The depression in our house is unbearable.
Some days you don't even want to get up.
Okay, so what else went on?
There's two dead people
that I'm extremely concerned about.
The first one I want to talk about is a male
that I encountered initially outside,
thin, short, in his 30s.
Got that he was ex-military or war vet.
Something really off about this dude.
He's covered in mud,
and on his chest, he wrote "Killer."
He's angry and lost and he's lashing out.
I saw him, at one point, attacking a female
and dismembering her.
It seemed liked he was getting some kind of high
or relief from doing this.
And that made me feel like
he could have been a serial killer.
Some of what you're saying reminds me of one of the most
prolific serial killers in U.S. history.
His name was Robert Charles Browne,
and he was active here in this neighborhood.
I got his photo right here.
Like the guy you saw, Browne was an army vet.
In fact, he got dishonorably discharged for drug use.
In 1987, he abducted and killed a 15-year-old girl
named Rocio Sperry, now, just about a mile from here.
When cops interrogated him, he confessed to strangling
Rocio Sperry, dismembering her body before he threw
her parts into different Dumpsters.
So, the thing is, Browne's not dead.
He's actually serving two life sentences in a prison
about an hour south of here.
But since he's been in prison,
Browne has confessed to killing dozens of more women.
If he's telling the truth, 49 innocent victims.
Normally I wouldn't have even mentioned it
because this guy's still alive, but in past investigations,
you've mentioned serial killers can leave
fragments of their mind behind.
Yes, there can be fragments of personality,
they leave a part of themselves there.
Could that be what's going on here?
More than likely, yes.
We were called in to do an investigation at a location
that was considered his hunting ground.
We have done over 50 investigations of that location
in reference to him.
Makes sense because one of the things I got was,
I said, this person has an attachment
to someone in this house.
Now, you told me you thought you picked
someone up on another investigation.
Tell Amy.
We did an investigation in Denver.
I had a very violent attack, threw me across the room.
Picked me up and threw me across the room.
Could have sworn that we brought him home
because I've had many, many violent attacks on me
in the home.
From what Amy's saying, these violent attacks
may not be from where you thought it was.
This guy might have been attached to you
before you even went to the hotel in Denver.
****
So what kind of experiences
would they have with this serial killer?
I'm seeing him in the basement freaking out,
punching and slamming things.
I thought it was possible living would hear this.
Tell her about the noises
you're hearing in the bedroom, the banging.
Boom, boom, boom, boom!
Terrible, horrible banging.
Be, like, I'm expecting to see a hole in the wall.
Another thing I saw him doing was
crawling up and down the basement stairs.
The living here would see
this, like, weirdly shaped kind of shadow thing.
You're going up the stairs,
feels like someone's on your ass.
You know, if you don't hurry the hell up,
you're gonna get run right over.
Tell Amy about the shadow figures.
I seem to have an issue with someone
in the very corner of the bedroom.
Very tall, very looming.
Now, Lorie, you've seen
the shadow figures as well, though?
Yeah, his head almost reaches the top of the door frame.
And he's tall, you can obviously tells he's a man.
He's taunting me.
He bothers me to death.
And the other thing I was nervous about was
the fact that he could get physical,
punching, hitting, stuff like that.
I was physically punched in the back so hard
that it knocked me to my knees
and I couldn't move for a week.
I had to go to the E.R.
You also got pushed against the wall?
Like I was being arrested, pushed down, tight
and held there for at least 10, 15 seconds,
just held there.
I couldn't move.
He's a real threat, full of rage.
And I'm very concerned
because he's trying to influence you
to either become a serial killer
or kill yourselves.
Be sitting here talking to you
and the next thing you know,
I want to rip your **** head off.
And I don't even know who I am and I go after her
and I scream and I yell and I get in her face.
This is really bad.
So the next dead person I encountered was a female.
White. I thought she lived here at some point.
Time period I got was '50s to '60s.
This woman is, like, put together.
I mean, perfect.
Like the epitome of a 1950s housewife.
I did ask her how she died.
She actually flashed a picture to me,
which was her hanging by her neck.
Okay, so, it may be a long shot,
but there are a few things you said that remind me of a woman
I came across in research.
Now, her name was Marjorie Mock.
She was a housewife, she lived in the apartment complex
across the street.
You said the woman you saw was from the '50s or '60s.
Now, Marjorie came to Colorado Springs in 1960.
What really got my attention is when you said
how meticulous the woman you saw was.
Every single day for 17 years,
she would dress up to the nines, do her hair, the make-up
and go walk around the local mall.
She never missed a day.
But on November 10, 1995, she didn't show up.
People got worried about her, they did a wellness check
and the manager found her dead in bed.
Now, Marjorie was 96 at the time of her death.
Holy ****
So, authorities figured it was natural causes.
But after the autopsy, the coroner determined
that she had been murdered.
Her cause of death was most likely strangulation.
Unfortunately, still an unsolved homicide to this day.
Actually I have a picture of her.
**** That makes sense now.
She has it out for a living woman in the house.
She refuses to let this living woman sleep.
That's when she messes with her the most.
She wants to do as much physical harm as possible,
she's building up to this, torturing the person.
Living people might see her.
She showed me her twisting her face.
So I look up or whatever and this woman,
she was a little lady, sweet, little lady, I thought.
She, like, changed into this creature,
rushed up right into the doorway
and then, pah, it was gone.
Scared me so bad and I don't frighten easily.
And it was her. I know it was her.
Do we think that everything that's happened to Lorie
is coming from this woman?
Yes.
So, I did a sketch of something
that she showed me her doing one night.
The face of an old lady.
Wow.
I don't like that. That's horrible.
I don't like that much at all.
So, is this lady attacking Lorie?
Yes.
How am I supposed to take care of this?
I don't think she can take much more
mentally or physically.
Just want to see her smile, I just want her happy.
And I can't help her.
Obviously you have a dangerous situation.
Thing about her, too, is she has inserted herself,
and she wants you out.
She made it clear that she will kill
if that's what it absolutely takes.
- I'm terrified! - Okay.
I'm scared ****less.
I'm pissed, I'm infuriated.
I can't touch what this is.
Want to hurt someone? You come, hurt me.
Whatever you want to do, you do to me,
but leave mine alone.
Yeah.
So, Jordan, I know it wasn't easy for you to call us in,
but it's a really good thing you did.
I mean, the problem here
is even more dangerous here than you thought.
So now it's time to answer the big question.
Is there any way to fix this?
Or do you need to pack up and get out of here
while you still have your lives to leave with?
And for that answer, I'm gonna turn over to Amy.
So, the first thing that needs to be done
is that the house needs to be cleaned
from top to bottom.
On every possible item,
surface, windows, walls,
and just saltwater everything.
Now, the reason why you're doing this is to
remove stagnate energy that's accumulated.
Once you've done that, the second step is
you will need to get a shaman for you
and a Reiki master for you.
Have these individuals come to the house at the same time.
You're gonna go to the basement with the shaman.
That shaman is going to do a removal ceremony
and then a blessing.
Then you, at the same time,
are going to go to your couch,
upstairs in the family area
to have a clearing and cord cutting done
by the Reiki master.
Once this is done, the shaman and Reiki master,
they're going to remove and block
the fragment left behind by the serial killer
as well as the angry old lady.
Now, the next day, the Reiki master only,
comes back and moves Nora on.
So, in the meantime,
do they need to stop doing investigations?
Yes, take a little bit of a break.
We definitely need to do that, I think.
Now, if they do this, will they start to feel better?
You're gonna feel a lot better.
I hope so.
Least we can see a light
at the end of the tunnel, I think.
There is hope.
You gonna take Amy's advice?
Absolutely.
- Absolutely. - Absolutely.
Okay.
I think it's doable, yeah, it's a lot of work,
but I'm willing to do it.
We're gonna start immediately.
Well, I'm glad we were able to help.
I'm more thankful than you know.
I happy, I'm extremely happy.
Jordan and Lorie have a lot of work ahead of them,
but I'm confident that if they follow my advice,
they'll be able to live in their house in peace.
Hey, guys, it's Jordan and Lorie.
Wanted to let you know
that after Amy and Steve were here,
we did everything that Amy said
and we're happy to say that the house is cleared.
The awful thing that was threatening our lives even,
is out, is gone.
It's beautiful and we want to thank
you guys for everything that you did.
Thanks so much. Thanks, guys.